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Fear Not: The Autonomous Car Is A Bust

By | 2018-01-09T15:48:22-04:00 01.09.2018|Tags: , |15 Comments

One of the best parts about having a blog is the opportunity to engage with people about some of the things I’m thinking about, and to make each other think. That’s why this week, I’m going to talk about a topic that’s been on my mind for a while now: the autonomous vehicle.

To kick this conversation off, I have a message for everyone who loves driving and motorsports. And that message is this: Don’t worry. You have nothing to fear. Autonomous cars aren’t a threat to racing, and they never will be. (They might be a threat to our safety, but more on that later.)

A Ford Explorer is the car I drive daily, but in full disclosure, I bought a car that has fully autonomous features. That might shock a lot of you, but the way I think about it is kind of like one of my favorite scenes from The Hunt for Red October. A couple Russians are speaking while Alec Baldwin, an American, is in the room. To their surprise, Baldwin starts talking in Russian, too. When asked why he knows Russian, Baldwin says that it’s wise to know his enemy. That’s kind of how I feel about autonomous vehicles. In a way, they’re my greatest adversary as a race car driver, so I want to know everything I can about them.

With my own autonomous car, I use the adaptive cruise control a lot (basically, a kind of autopilot), the radar for parking, and the parallel park functions. The car does pretty well in traffic on the freeway, so that’s cool. But at the end of the day, it’s kind of confirmed what I was already feeling about autonomous cars in general.

It’s worth saying that my own opinion here kind of makes me laugh because I generally don’t have a lot of patience for people who are overly pessimistic. But I am of the opinion that the autonomous vehicle will never succeed in the United States, and at least part of how I feel comes from being a race car driver.

WHAT IS AUTONOMOUS?

With respect to what a fully autonomous vehicle is, a famous car executive once explained that autonomous can mean different things to different people, and broke things down into different categories:

“We’ve been working on autonomous vehicles for over 10 years. Our approach is twofold. One is to be a leader in advanced driver assist and semiautonomous features, features that will keep you in your lane, that will alert you about traffic, that will adapt your speed…That was what they call level zero through three, where the driver has to be in control. Then there’s level four, where the driver or passenger does not need to be prepared to take control…Level-four vehicles—[which operate] in a defined area that’s been 3-D mapped—we think that somebody in the industry will have by the end of the decade. A level-five vehicle, which is, you go into your car, you hit a button, you go to sleep and you wake up at grandma’s house, that is a long way away—15, 20 years.”

Twenty years ago, cruise control would have basically been autonomous. Today, people think of the Tesla autopilot as autonomous.

For millennials, autonomous basically means, “I don’t have to do anything.” You can listen to music, play the air guitar, read on your iPad, and not do anything behind the wheel of a car. You just get in a car, push a button, and go from point A to point B without having to do anything to get to your destination. The car does everything. It’s what the car executive would have called a level five.

That’s the version I’m going use for this discussion: the fully autonomous vehicle.

THE HUMAN ELEMENT

As a race car driver, I deal with situations all the time where I have to see things coming before they happen. Talladega is kind of a perfect example of that. Being able to run a race at Talladega is all about quick reactions, predictive analysis, and the ability to step in before something goes wrong. I try to see a scenario two or three laps before it’s going to happen. I try to be prepared for it, and to be positioned for it not to affect me.

Imagine that you’re in a car, and you’re driving behind a truck carrying a bunch of logs. There’s a log on the pile that’s loose, and looks like it might fall off. An autonomous vehicle’s sensors aren’t going to pick up something that hasn’t happened yet but might. You would. If you were driving the car, you’d simply get in another lane, and pass that truck before anything happened.

That’s a lot like being a race car driver (though again, we’re doing all of this at 200 mph). You’re putting yourself in situations or getting yourself out of situations that you see coming. Computers and algorithms can make calculations at lightning fast speeds, but there are still tremendous advantages the human mind has. We can draw on our experience, and in many cases, still process situations faster and more thoughtfully and accurately than an autopilot could.

So that alone seems like a reason why you wouldn’t want to remove the human element from driving completely.

INFRASTRUCTURE

Another big strike against autonomous vehicles is that to some extent, they’re going to have to rely on our country’s infrastructure system to be successful. There are plenty of reasons to think that will be problematic.

The Tesla’s autopilot, for example, relies on sensors being able to read the road. When they do that, they pick up on things like lane markers. They’re affected by the type of pavement you’re driving on. Whenever there’s construction—and I’m not sure what things are like where you live, but there’s always construction going on where I’m at—we put up jersey barriers and yellow cones. Sometimes there aren’t any lines painted on the ground at all because they’re tearing up the pavement. Or there’s fresh pavement, but the lines are all crooked and painted wrong.

THE LIMITS OF TECHNOLOGY

There’s basically two different ways that autonomous cars can “see” the road. There’s a mostly GPS-based model that relies on super detailed mapping, and there’s a mostly camera-based model that actually relies on special cameras and sensors (visual, infrared, etc.) on the cars themselves. Unfortunately, both of these can be messed up pretty easily, and the things that cause them problems are very real, and not easy to fix.

Going back to the infrastructure issue, GPS-based mapping can’t handle changes that occur to roads. So if there’s construction, for example, the car gets thrown. I remember hearing that in one test run of autonomous cars, a car got stuck at a stop sign because it had moved a few feet, and was at odds with the GPS information the car was using. The car read the sign’s new location as an obstruction, and refused to move.

In the same way, cameras stop functioning well when things like weather conditions change. A snow covered road, for example, doesn’t have things on it like lane markers. It basically renders the technology that an autonomous car would rely on essentially useless.

I experienced the limitations of this tech first-hand not that long ago. I drove to Darlington in autonomous mode on a perfectly clear day, and it was a complete disaster. The road I was on for a lot of the drive was a divided highway with u-turns set on the left side of highway at regular intervals, so the lines in the road were drawn differently. Literally every time we passed a u-turn, the car went crazy and tried to pull left. I could not drive the car in the left lane in autonomous mode.

LIABILITY

This is another big question that is really, really tough to answer. If there’s an accident with an autonomous vehicle, who’s at fault? Who’s going to pay the bill for the damages? What happens if the autonomous system doesn’t see something that the average person would have, and someone gets hurt or killed? Would you blame the auto company for not writing a better algorithm?

If there’s a lawsuit every time an autonomous vehicle fails, it seems like it would cripple the industry’s ability to make those cars, and remove a lot of financial incentives to do so.

It’s a tremendous challenge to figure out the liability side of things.

REDUNDANCY

Not that long ago, I had two interesting things happen in vehicles I was traveling in. The autonomous sensors failed in my car, and a part broke in my airplane right in the middle of a flight.

The difference between the two failures added another dimension to why I don’t believe an autonomous vehicle will ever work.

When my airplane broke down, it lost a circuit board that runs the batteries in the plane. But it had two boards. The airplane was able to keep flying. We landed immediately, and got the part repaired. We were able to do that because airplanes are built with a culture of redundancy. The premise behind that is it’s better to be broken down on the ground than in the air, wishing you were on the ground or worse. If you have a redundant system, when one critical system fails, you stop flying, and get to the ground.

Redundant systems are very expensive to build, which is why the automotive industry generally doesn’t build cars with redundancy. For the most part, there is one system of everything in a car: one engine, one battery, one set of controls. Automotive culture is if one thing breaks, hopefully it’s something that you can get fixed easily. You just stop somewhere on the side of the road, call AAA, and move on.

To make autonomous cars truly safe, I think you’d have to introduce at least some level of redundancy in a few different areas. You’d also need costly safety and maintenance checks. That would make cars a lot less affordable, which in turn removes an incentive for building them.

YOUR THOUGHTS

There are a bunch of other issues that come up with autonomous cars that could probably merit their own sections. If computers are running the show, that opens them up to being hacked, and who knows what happens if people are able to take over the controls of autonomous cars. There’s also the reality of American car culture: People still love to drive their cars, and they love to watch their favorite drivers race, too.

But you know what? I could be dead wrong here. Twenty years from now, they might come out with a fully working autonomous vehicle. Yes, I’m a race car driver and somewhat of an expert when it comes to being behind the wheel, but there’s a lot more to this than that. I definitely don’t have all the answers, and quite honestly, I’m just as interested to hear what you think.

So what do you think? Post your thoughts here in the comments on my site, or on Twitter and Facebook with the hashtag #DriverlessCarBlog.

15 Comments


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    Mike Longworth January 9, 2018 at 5:27 pm
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    I totally agree with you Brad, a lot of highways the lanes are not visible due to wore out lines and I seen a video of a self driving car crash with no speed reduction in an construction site, but almost instantly the 4 ways came on at the same time braking very hard bounce into the right lane where it collided with the car coming from behind in that lane. I love driving and I think autonomous cars are a very long way away. Hope


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    Bob Guy January 9, 2018 at 5:30 pm
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    A very thoughtful piece Brad. I happen to agree with you. I don’t think I could ever give up control totally to the vehicle. I have a hard enough time riding in the front passenger seat with another driver. (Following distance and braking points)


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    gary r hart January 9, 2018 at 5:34 pm
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    Mechanic for 35 years here. They can’t make a car where all the normal systems will run with out fail, much less autonomous ones. Wish I had a dime for every computer system screwup i’ve seen. The more expensive and fancy the vehicle, the more it is broken. I will continue to rely on the old mark1 eyeball and brain.


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    Dee Snelson January 9, 2018 at 5:35 pm
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    I think you make some excellent points! “Level 5” autonomy is a long way off. I do see faetures such as autonomous breaking, adaptive cruise, and lane departure becoming mandatory like seat belts and air bags in the next ten years.

    Even if regulators do not act, I see buyers demanding these features. I love the bumper sensors and back up camera in my F250. I wouldn’t buy another truck without them.

    However, our sport of racing is safe. We saw traction control and other technologies enter F1 only to be abandoned. We want to see the best driver and team on the track. No one cares how fast your computer is.

    And remember, Jay Leno was able to beat an autonomous Audi on the track.

    The nerds aren’t there yet!


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    Danny Davis January 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm
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    Brad, excellent post. As a 67 y/o, I don’t think I’ll be here to see this come of age. But I will say one thing. The autonomous cars will not be allowed to run with driver controlled vehicles on the same roads. It just can’t work. And IMO, drivers will be the ones to have to stop driving.

    I base that on the liability part you mentioned. Imagine if we are allowed to drive non autonomous vehicles along side of autonomous cars, the price of Liability insurance will completely shut down cars with drivers. I mean, if the cars are driven with GPS and or cameras, the one thing that can not be controlled, is the human actions. And insurance companies have it hard enough to base prices on human interactions on the roads. Add autonomous cars to the mix, and watch the price to protect unpredictable humans go through the roof.

    It’s like AI taking over bit by bit. I’m all for technical leaps, but I just can’t see this happening on grounded based vehicles ;grounded meaning non airborne. And that’s a whole other can of worms.

    Anyways, my thoughts and good luck thus coming year. Be safe, be strong!


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    Spencer January 9, 2018 at 7:15 pm
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    Nice Hunt for Red October reference…


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    I’d have to agree with pretty much everything you’ve said Brad. I think when the first lawsuit is filed against the car manufacturer after a crash that’ll be the end of autonomous cars.


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    Interesting discussion. You might well be correct as far as level 5 goes if you mean anywhere to anywhere. Someplace to someplace is certainly achievable.

    I think your assertion that humans are more capable than computers because humans can draw on experience and process some situations better and more quickly than computers is wrong. Computers draw on experience and they don’t forget. I can’t think of any task that humans could perform more quickly than a well trained computer. Complex analysis like the log on the truck you describe would, I believe, always be better handled more accurately and more quickly by a computer. Don’t forget, you are a better driver than about 99.9999% of the drivers out there.

    As far as seeing the road, an autonomous car with vision, radar and sonar will see the road when a human wouldn’t stand a chance. Imagine that your cars computer was communicating with the computer of the car ahead of you. Now it can see ‘thru’ the car ahead.

    Liability is always tricky but managed. Autonomous cars will ultimately result in many fewer accidents making the liability question less of an issue. You are looking at it from the perspective that there will be constant issues arising from mistakes the computer makes. I think it will be pretty rare.

    I thought Elon Musk was being paranoid when he stated that robots are scary and will take over the world unless we do something about it now until I read about how his AI group made a software bot that beat the best players in the world at a game that makes chess look easy. They taught the bot the basic rules of the game and how to reproduce itself. It reproduced itself, played the new replicant, reproduced the winner and repeated the process for a few generations and became unbeatable. Your Tesla is doing that right now. Plus, it has not only its own experience to learn from but, all the other Teslas experiences too.

    Driverless cars will happen and they will be superior to every driver with the possible exception of you!


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    Brad, you make a lot of good points. Especially regarding architecture being a big piece of the puzzle. I think we will see fully autonomous cars in use by 2025, but mainly in use by delivery services and ride services like Uber & Lyft. Will it be pefect? No, what new technology is when it is first available. As far as racing, i hope we never get to the point where we take the driver out of the equation. Ever considered driving in the FormulaE series?


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    An incredible well thought out essay of which I could not agree more. As a resident of upstate New York, I cannot imagine being a passenger in a Level 4 or 5 autonomous vehicle while it attempts to negotiate a roundabout during a snowstorm. Not going to happen with this guy seated in the vehicle, well maybe if I were strapped in securely in the Miller number 2 car. Thanks Brad for the great insight and good luck in the coming season and Happy New Year to you and your beautiful family.


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    Brad, I support your analysis of autonomous cars. The first-hand scenarios are truly scary, and the complications produced from a non-ethical machine seem tremendous. As a early college student and high school senior, I’ve recently been accepted into a four year engineering school near Charlotte, and I’ve also started helping a local dirt late model team. For one of my college papers, I chose to write about self-Driving (Autonomous) Vehicle. I’ve listed the essay link below, and if you decide to read, a Works Cited Page is included to help your search for data, news stories, and opinions.

    P.S. I met you at the Darlington Walmart in September 2017. I was the second fan in line. Thank you for being kind to me and my family.

    Essay: file:///C:/Users/Nicholas/Downloads/Proposal%20Argument%20Final%20draft.pdf


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    Good to see you covered the single issue that will never be resolved. Liability.

    The programmers will never be able to make a perfect autonomous vehicle. Every little accident will be jumped on by the ambulance chasing lawyers who see a huge pot of gold to go after. The car manufacturers will simply have to admit they cannot take responsibility for complete control of the vehicle.

    We will forever be limited to driver assists.


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    You might want to ask your manufacturing partner about autonomous. Level 5 will be here within 5 years for both cars and trucks. You can stick your head in the sand if you wish, but its coming quicker and sooner than you think.

    Autononmous isnt a threat to motorsports, indifference is. The car as a cultural symbol has been diminishing for over a decade. There is no turning back, fewer and fewer people care about cars, owning them or wearing them as a status symbol. The times, they are a changing.


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    Very thought provoking and well written. Your log theory is spot on. I was a truck driver have 300k safe driving miles. When driving a truck you have to have 360 vision. You also need to be watching not only the vehicle in front of you, but you need to be paying attention to what’s going on at least a quarter mile ahead of you .I’ve had to dodge things falling off of other vehicles and been in other situations that autonomous vehicles would never be able to react to. There’s no way to replace the skills of a good human driver


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    yeah i agree with the snow storm issue up the north this year the roads have been covered with snow and ice more then they have been clear and its a whole different driving style needed Perhaps sensors satellite or talking to other computers in cars could navigate that but the last time i check my sat tv or radio do not work when covered with snow and ice. One function on our new van is anti spin will not let you gun it to make the top of the drive way Grrr. so have to turn that off that feature to really manipulate the vehicle the way i want. Oh and the back up sensors on my Ford F-250 I loved too but they stopped working and I found the corner of the wood pile so much for relying on tech and not looking in the mirror Not to mention while sitting at my computer the internet connection has gone out three times Doesn’t usually happen but today not so much Yes we are a long way off from level five thank God


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